Peptide creams & serums: Matrixyl, Copper Peptide| Dr Dray

Dr DrayClinician, MD, dermatologist17 minMar 2018324K views

A solo skincare talk in which Dr Dray argues that peptide and copper peptide creams are probably just moisturizers, and explains why he doubts they reach the deeper skin.

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  1. 0:02Why he is making this videoDr Dray says viewers keep asking whether peptide and copper peptide creams are legitimate, and sets out to say whether they help with pores and aging.
  2. 1:03What a peptide isHe describes peptides as chains of amino acids that feed into larger proteins, and says cell-dish studies suggest they can stimulate collagen-making fibroblasts.
  3. 3:39Matrixyl and the penetration problemHe explains that Matrixyl is a peptide with a fatty acid attached, and says it works on cells in a dish but is implausible as something that crosses the skin barrier.
  4. 4:43Peptides as humectantsHe argues that peptides hold water on the skin, so the plumping people notice likely comes from moisturizing, which a simple moisturizer can also provide.
  5. 7:18What proof he would wantHe says he would need a long-term blinded human study with skin biopsies showing thicker dermis and more collagen, and says marketing leans on preliminary lab findings.
  6. 8:20Copper and its role in the bodyHe describes copper as a trace mineral that many enzymes need, including enzymes involved in collagen synthesis, DNA repair and pigment.
  7. 9:30Copper peptides and wound claimsHe says 1990s work reported faster wound healing with less scarring using copper peptides, and that companies stretched this into anti-aging claims.
  8. 10:56Dose and copper excessHe says too much copper can generate free radicals and inflammation, so he would not assume more copper on the skin is better.
  9. 12:23His verdict on copper peptidesHe says he would avoid them, calling absorption unlikely and safety unproven, and notes plant peptides are fine as moisturizing ingredients.
  10. 12:57Microneedling and deeper absorptionHe voices concern about applying products after microneedling because of reported foreign body reactions, and asks how deep and how safe any absorbed material would be.

What the video says

Dr Dray answers viewer questions about peptides in creams and serums, including copper peptides. He covers whether they help with pores, aging or what he calls mature skin. The video is a solo talk on topical skincare. It is not about injectable or oral peptides.

He starts by defining a peptide as a short chain of amino acids that acts as a building block for the larger proteins the body makes. He says laboratory work on cells in a dish suggests peptides can prompt collagen-making fibroblasts to produce more protein. Cosmetic companies, he says, have built products on that observation, using plant-derived peptides or engineered ones such as Matrixyl, a peptide with a fatty acid attached to help it penetrate. He accepts that Matrixyl stimulates cells in a dish but says it is not plausible that it gets through the skin barrier to the deeper layers.

His view is that most of the benefit people notice comes from peptides acting as humectants, meaning they help skin hold water. He says that can plump the look of skin, soften wrinkles and make pores less prominent, and that a plain moisturizer can do the same. To be convinced of any anti-aging or collagen-rebuilding effect, he says he would need a long-term blinded human study with skin biopsies showing thicker dermis and more collagen.

On copper peptides, he explains that copper is a trace mineral many enzymes need, including ones involved in collagen and DNA repair. He says early 1990s work showed copper peptides applied to wounds were followed by faster healing with less scarring, and that companies extended this to anti-aging claims. He argues the dose matters, since too much copper can generate free radicals and inflammation. He would not spend time or money on them. He also voices concern about applying them after microneedling, citing reported foreign body reactions, and about how deep and how safe any absorption would be. He closes by criticizing how marketers use pilot study results as if they were proof in people.

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Dr Dray discusses topical copper peptides, saying they were reported in the early 1990s to speed wound healing with less scarring. He says anti-aging claims go beyond that evidence, that copper excess can be damaging, and that he would avoid them.

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What this video doesn’t settle

  • It is one presenter's opinion in a casual talk, and he cites no specific trials, so his claims cannot be checked against the studies he alludes to.
  • He does not review any human trials of peptide creams or copper peptides, so the video does not show whether the products help or not.
  • Whether topical peptides or copper peptides penetrate the skin is argued from general skin biology, not shown with measurements in the video.

Questions this video answers

Do peptide creams and serums actually boost collagen?

Dr Dray says cell-dish studies show some peptides can stimulate collagen-making cells. He argues there is no proof that topical peptides reach the deeper skin or rebuild collagen in people. He says it would take long-term blinded human studies with skin biopsies to show that.

Why might a peptide serum seem to work if it does not rebuild skin?

He says peptides bind water and act as humectants, which can plump the skin and make pores and wrinkles look less prominent. He believes most perceived benefit comes from that moisturizing effect, which he says a plain moisturizer can also give.

What does Dr Dray say about Matrixyl?

He describes it as a trademarked peptide with a fatty acid attached, meant in theory to improve penetration. He says it stimulates collagen production in cells in a dish but that reaching the deeper skin through the barrier does not seem plausible.

Are copper peptide skincare products worth using according to Dr Dray?

He says he would not waste time or money on them and would avoid them. His reasons are that absorption seems unlikely, that there is no evidence they work safely if they do get in, and that too much copper can generate free radicals.

Is it a good idea to use copper serums after microneedling?

Dr Dray says the idea makes him nervous. He cites reported foreign body reactions to products applied after microneedling, and he questions how deep and how safe any absorption would be.

Video by Dr Dray on YouTube, embedded as published. The summary is written by PeptidesDNA from the video; every claim in it is the speaker’s. Not affiliated with or endorsed by the creator. Not medical advice.

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