Reacting To Joe Rogan Talk About His HGH Use, Head Growth And Banned Peptides
A bodybuilding YouTuber reacts to a Joe Rogan podcast clip, with commentary on BPC-157, GHRP-6 and banned peptides, plus a long stretch on growth hormone and facial changes.
With Derek, Joe Rogan, Andrew Schulz
Key moments
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- 0:00Setting up the Rogan reactionDerek explains that viewers asked him about Rogan's growth hormone dose, and that he wants to cover the peptides Rogan mentions as well.
- 1:01Peptides vary in usefulnessDerek says some peptides are more useful than others and describes a melanin-boosting one he has used to change skin tone.
- 2:01BPC-157 and his mother's shoulderHe calls BPC-157 a leading healing compound and says his mother reported pain relief and better movement in a long-standing shoulder problem within two weeks.
- 3:02Banned lists and cancer cautionDerek says TB-500 is banned while BPC-157 is not. He warns that promoting blood vessel growth could be a problem for anyone with a tumor.
- 4:02Brain-gut axis claimsHe says BPC-157 appears to interact with the brain-gut axis, gut health and inflammatory issues, though he describes gut health as widely misunderstood.
- 6:05Rogan's 1 IU growth hormone doseDerek says Rogan takes 1 IU a day. In Derek's view that is close to replacement and unlikely to cause the serious problems linked to heavy use.
- 7:41Does growth hormone change the faceDerek argues that muscle gain, water retention and cumulative hormone exposure all affect facial size, and that 1 IU would be a subtle contributor at most.
- 14:49GHRP-6 and the fighter's testDerek describes GHRP-6 as a strong appetite stimulant that he says hurts insulin sensitivity, and he questions why a tested fighter would use it.
- 16:51BPC-157 in the UFCHe expects BPC-157 to be widely used by fighters, says it is not banned, and says it can shorten recovery by months.
- 18:59Closing risks and sparing useDerek advises keeping BPC-157 for specific injuries instead of year-round use because of the cancer data he cites.
What the video says
Derek, who runs the More Plates More Dates channel, reacts to a clip from a Joe Rogan podcast with Andrew Schulz. Most of the video is about growth hormone (HGH) dosing and whether it changes head and face size. The peptide material sits mainly in the first five minutes and again from about 15 minutes. He also plugs his own products and sponsors at the end.
On peptides, Derek says they vary in usefulness and briefly mentions a melanin-boosting one he has used himself for tanning. He then focuses on BPC-157, which he calls one of the main healing compounds. He describes his mother's years-long shoulder problem and says she reported less pain and better range of motion within two weeks. He also says it is not on the anti-doping agency's banned list, while TB-500 is. He says BPC-157 promotes new blood vessel growth, which he sees as a concern for anyone with a tumor, and he links it to gut health through the brain-gut axis.
Derek explains that Rogan's stated growth hormone dose is 1 IU a day. In Derek's view that is a therapeutic, low dose that should keep IGF-1 within a normal range. He argues that the weight and water retention that come with gaining muscle matter more for face size than the hormone itself. He also says heavy long-term use, such as 15 IUs or more, has been tied to larger facial changes in some bodybuilders.
Later he discusses GHRP-6, which he links to a fighter's failed drug test. He calls it a strong appetite stimulant that he says worsens insulin sensitivity, and he thinks it is a poor choice for a tested athlete. He expects BPC-157 to be widely used in the UFC and says it can speed recovery by months. He ends by urging sparing, targeted use rather than year-round use, citing the cancer concern.
On each compound
BPC-1572:01
Derek calls BPC-157 a leading healing compound, says his mother reported shoulder improvement within two weeks, and says it is not banned. He also warns that its blood vessel effects could be a problem for anyone with a tumor.
See how your DNA reads BPC-157TB-5003:02
Derek notes that the anti-doping agency has banned TB-500 while leaving BPC-157 alone. He lists it among the peptides he is interested in but does not discuss it further.
See how your DNA reads TB-500GHRP-614:49
Derek says GHRP-6 is a growth hormone releasing peptide and a strong appetite stimulant that he says worsens insulin sensitivity and raises blood glucose. He calls it a poor choice for a tested athlete who must make weight.
See how your DNA reads GHRP-6Melanotan II1:01
Derek mentions a melanin-boosting peptide he calls Milano Tan, says he has used it, and says it can visibly change skin tone. He does not give dosing or safety detail.
See how your DNA reads Melanotan II“be sparing with its use”
What this video doesn’t settle
- Derek's account of his mother's shoulder is a single anecdote with no control group or medical assessment.
- The cancer concern about BPC-157 is stated as a general worry, and no studies or data are cited in the video.
- Rogan's dose is relayed second-hand, and Derek admits he does not know how long Rogan has used it or whether he has gone higher.
Questions this video answers
Is BPC-157 banned in sports according to this video?
Derek says the anti-doping agency has not banned BPC-157 and that, as far as he knows, no professional league tests for it. He says the agency issued a warning that it is untested but did not add it to its list. He contrasts it with TB-500, which he says is banned.
What does Derek say about the risks of BPC-157?
Derek says it promotes new blood vessel growth, which he considers a bad combination for anyone with a tumor. He recommends using it sparingly for a specific injury rather than year-round.
What growth hormone dose does Joe Rogan say he uses?
In the clip Rogan says he takes 1 IU a day. Derek calls that a normal, therapeutic dose that should keep IGF-1 within the reference range.
What does Derek say about GHRP-6?
Derek says GHRP-6 strongly increases appetite and, he says, worsens insulin sensitivity and raises blood glucose. He also calls it a synthetic compound that is easy to detect in testing and says it offers little performance benefit.
Video by More Plates More Dates on YouTube, embedded as published. The summary is written by PeptidesDNA from the video; every claim in it is the speaker’s. Not affiliated with or endorsed by the creator. Not medical advice.
